Dreamville – Revenge Of The Dreamers III (Album Review)

Dreamville – Revenge Of The Dreamers III

Released July 5, 2019

Yes, people your favorite blogger has returned. You’ve missed me and I’ve missed you and I ABSOLUTELY MISSED providing you all with the DOPEST and MOST ORIGINAL of CONTENT. It seems very fitting that the highly anticipated and the EARLY “Album of the Year Candidate,” ‘Revenge of the Dreamers III’ is the first project I review upon my return. Also, it’s not like this album didn’t just go#1 this week or anything! 😈

2019 kicked off with J. Cole and longtime manager Ibrahim Hamad announcing that Dreamville and its members were about to embark on a 10-day series of recording sessions for ‘Revenge of the Dreamers III’. This announcement came with a social media blitzkrieg of invites to artists, producers, execs and other creatives. With the task at hand to create their third compilation project, Dreamville and its guest had 10 days to generate a cohesive and powerful body of work. Below is a short documentary of their quest to create magic.


Dreamville Presents: REVENGE (Documentary)


Tracklist & Song Ratings

1. Under the Sun ft. J. Cole, Lute, & DaBaby (5/5)
2. Down Bad ft. Bas, J.I.D, Young Nudy, J. Cole, EarthGang (5/5)
3. LamboTruck ft. Cozz, Childish Major, & REASON (4.5/5)
4. Swivel (from the upcoming album Mirrorland) ft. EarthGang (4/5)
5. Oh Wow…Swerve ft. J. Cole, Zoink Gang, Key! & Maxo Cream (4.2/5)
6. Don’t Hit Me Right Now ft. Bas, Yung Baby Tate, Guapdad4000,Cozz & Buddy(5/5)
7. Wells Fargo (Interlude) ft. J.I.D, Buddy, EarthGang, & Guapdad 4000 (5/5)
8. Sleep Deprived ft. Lute, Mez, Omen, & Davionne (4/5)
9. Self Love ft. Ari Lennox, Baby Love, & Bas (4.5/5)
10. Ladies, Ladies, Ladies ft. J.I.D & T.I. (3.8/5)
11. Costa Rica ft. Reese LAFLARE, Bas, Jace, Mez, Smokepurpp, J.I.D., Buddy, Ski Mask The Slump God, & Guapdad4000 (3.8/5)
12. 1993 ft. Buddy, Smino, Cozz, EarthGang, J.I.D, & J. Cole (4.75/5)
13. Rembrandt…Run It Back ft. J.I.D, J. Cole, & Vince Staples
14.Sunset ft. J. Cole & Young Nudy (4.4/5)
15. Got Me ft. Ty Dolla $ign, Omen, Ari Lennox, & Dreezy (4.4/5)
16. Middle Child – J. Cole (4.2/5)
17 PTSD ft. Mereba, Deante Hitchcock, Omen, & St. Beauty (4.3/5)
18. Sacrifices ft. EarthGang, Smino, Saba, & J. Cole (5/5)


A project that seemed to have too many cooks in the kitchen, the Dreamville Chefs and their Guest Chefs have the recipe for success with ‘Revenge of the Dreamers III’. Right away ROTD III kicks of with the soulful production intro track, “Under the Sun” which samples The Argo Singers 1963 hit “I’ll Be Waiting for You.” Of course, it was fitting that the first verse we hear to kick off a project with such high expectations was from J. Cole himself. After a hard-hitting verse with impeccable delivery, we are ABSOLUTELY TEASED by an invigorating chorus from Kendrick Lamar. This is followed by impressive verses by Dreamville mainstay Lute and 2019’s breakout artist, DaBaby. I can’t even front I’m still upset that we didn’t get a Kendrick verse. I quickly got over it though once that beat dropped for my favorite track, “Down Bad.”

I felt like ROTD III was a project that was full of life as it represented the current state of music and how there’s a seat at the table for everyone. Of course, the table head is Mr. Jermaine Cole. He leads and facilitates the balance between promoter and participant on this album. With Cole playing both roles he’s able to create a level playing field for both the established artists and the upcoming artists to showcase their talents. For example, Baby Rose went full Nina Simone on “Self Love.” Emerging fan favorites such as Buddy, Smino and Guapdad4000 got the green-light of running full on savage mode throughout the entire project as they made sure to make their presence known. The overlooked and yet very talented acts such as Mereba, Saba, Maxo Kream, and Omen seized their moment to shine. There were definitely a few surprises on here. I would have never thought in a million years we’d hear T.I and J.I.D together as we did on “Ladies, Ladies, Ladies.” Speaking of surprises, Vince Staples on the tail-end of “Rembrandt…Run It Back” had me so excited but of course you would have hoped for more. There better be more J. Cole, J.I.D and Vince tracks stashed somewhere! I just want to say this now before I lose my train of thought, J.I.D is becoming elite right in front of our eyes. East Atlanta’s finest was in serious form as he delivered on every track he was featured on.

There were a lot of unique elements on this project that I really enjoyed. I love how a project dominated with a lot of lyrical spitters we still were able to get great hooks on cuts like “Don’t Hit Me Right Now” and KEY!’s offering on “Oh Wow… Swerve.” I loved hearing J.I.D and Buddy mimicking the demented spirit of Pinky & The Brain on the intro to “Wells Fargo” along with Cozz and Reason’s “Guilty Conscience”-style scheming to rob their respective label bosses on “LamboTruck.” The Production! Production on this project was probably some of the best this year. There were so many different minds behind production that you would wonder how this project would sonically. CHASETHEMONEY, ClicknPress, Bink! Elite, Ron Gilmore, Pyrex, T-Minus and many others made sure that we got everything from trap to boombap sounds. I could really talk about this project until the end of time but lets wrap it up.

‘Revenge of the Dreamers III’ was a collaboration unlike any other. The last time a star studded studio session came close to the magnitude ROTD III boot camp was Kanye getting everyone to come out to Hawaii to record ‘My Dark Twisted Fantasy’. ROTD III was 18 tracks, included over 50 contributors, and ran about an hour long. It actually seemed a bit surprising that this thing project was only 18 tracks honestly! There’s just so many different styles, cadences and sounds from the contributing artist and production I was expecting and some what hoping for a double disk. Chris Brown is out here giving us 40 track and 30 track albums back to back. I’d assume 60 people could give us at least 25-30 tracks. But nonetheless, the finished product that we received that is ‘Revenge of the Dreamers III’ is a rather remarkable body of work with three major takeaways. Cole and Dreamville as whole label have leveled ALL THE WAY UP, there may not be such thing as too many cooks in one kitchen and the most importantly, the state of hip hop is in amazing hands. Dreamville and Friends got us covered!

 

Rating: 9.4/10

In Suave We Trust Presents…. “The Top 50 Albums of 2018”

I’m back like I never left! Well actually I haven’t done a Top 50 list since 2016…. 2017 was a very tough year with posting and 2018 was no better, by my standards at least. But best believe we’re getting things poppin‘ in 2019 and we are closing out 2018 with a bang. I present to you my Top 50 Albums for the year.

So the albums selected released between January 1st thru December 15th. I do not really follow the window that Grammy Committee does so please keep in mind the date range I mentioned. So yes next year I’ll be going from the December 15th of 2018 thru December 15th of 2019…. Also there is the possibility I may go from January 1st 2019 to December 31st 2019 since I like to post these rankings a few weeks into the new year anyway!

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But as you can see there were plenty of amazing projects that dropped this year! I would like to take the time to applaud all these artist for their work BUT I CAN ONLY GO WITH 50! This year I found myself struggling at times to make these picks and It was difficult to do. Some popular projects may not be ranked where some would like or they may not have even made the 50. Well, too bad. Tell your favorite artist to do better….

That’s enough shall we dive in!?


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50. Camila Cabello – Camila

 Favorite Tracks: All These Years, Havana and In The Dark

 

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49. Saint JHN – Collection One

 Favorite Tracks: 3 Below, Surf Club, Roses, Reflex, and GOD BLESS THE RATCHETS

 

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48. Towkio – WWW.

 Favorite Tracks: Symophony, Hate to Love, 2 Da Moon and Forever

 

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47. Mick Jenkins – Pieces Of A Man

 Favorite Tracks: Barcelona, Understood and Soft Porn

 

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46. Joey Purp – QUARTERTHING

Favorite Tracks: 24K Gold/Sanctified, Elastic, QUARTERTHING, Look At My Wrist, and Fessional/Diamonds Dancing

 

 

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45. Rae Sremmurd – SR3MM

 Favorite Tracks: Up In My Cocina, Perplexing Pegasus, Buckets, 42, Powerglide, Chanel, Changed Up and Guatemala  

playboi carti44. Playboi Carti – Die Lit

Favorite Tracks: Long Time, R.I.P, Shoota, Poke It Out, Home (KOD), Fell In Luv and Pull Up

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43. Dave East Paranoia II

Favorite Tracks: Talk To Big, Prosper, Powder, Corey, I Can Not and I Found Keisha

 

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42. Post Malone – Beerbongs & Bentleys

Favorite Tracks: Paranoid, Spoil My Night, rockstar, Psycho, 92 Explorer and Candy Paint

 

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41. Buddy – Harlan and Alondra

Favorite Tracks: Real Life S**t, Black, Hey Up There, Trouble On Central, Trippin’, and Find Me 2


 

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40. A$AP Rocky – Testing

 Favorite Tracks: Distorted Records, A$AP Forever REMIX, Tony Tone, Praise The Lord, Buck Shots and OG Beeper

 

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39. Kali Uchis – Isolation

 Favorite Tracks: Tyrant, Nuestro Planeta, Feel Like A Fool, and After The Storm 

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39. Jorja Smith – Lost & Found 

 Favorite Songs:  Lost & Found, Wandering Romance, Lifeboats (Freestyle), and The One

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37. Teyana Taylor – K.T.S.E.

Favorite Tracks: Gonna Love Me and Rose In Harlem 

 

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36. Denzel Curry – TA13OO

Favorite Track: Clout Cobain, Cash Maniac, Sumo and Percs

 

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 35. Leon Bridges –Good Thing

 Favorite Track: Bad Bad News and You Don’t Know

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 34. Drake – Scorpion

Favorite Tracks: Survival, Nonstop, God’s Plan, Mob Ties, Sandra’s Rose, Is There More and Jaded

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 33. Currensy, Freddie Gibbs, and the Alchemist – FETTI

 

Favorite Tracks: The Blow, Bundy Sincere and Location Remote

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32. Blood Orange – Negro Swan

Favorite Tracks: Saint, Hope and Charcoal Baby

 

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31. Kids See Ghosts – Kids See Ghosts

Favorite Tracks: 4th Dimension, Freeeee, and Reborn

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30. Vince Staples – FM!

Favorite Tracks: Run The Bands, Don’t Get Chipped, Feels Like Summer, and Tweakin 

 

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29. Tom Misch – Geography

Favorite Tracks: Before Paris/Lost in Paris, South of the River, Movie, It Runs through Me, and Water Baby

 

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28. Jeremih &Ty Dolla Sign – MihTy

Favorite Tracks: The Light, FYT, Goin Thru Some Thangz, Surrounded and Intimate

 

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27. Royce Da 5’9 – Book of Ryan

Favorite Tracks: Cocaine, Caterpillar, Boblo Boat, Summer On Lock, and Woke 

 

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26. Octavion – Spaceman

Favorite Tracks: Stand Down, Build, Break That, Lightening, and Move Faster

*GET FAMILIAR WITH THE BOY*

 

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25. Flatbush Zombies – Vacation In Hell

Favorite Tracks: HELL-O, Vacation, Headstone, Facts, Ask Courtney, and Crown

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24. Benny The Butcher – Tana Talk 3

Favorite Tracks: 97 Hov, Rubber Band & Weight, Joe Pesci 38 and Broken Bottles

 

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23. Masego – Lady Lady

Favorite Tracks: I Had A Vision, Old Age, Just A Little, Lady Lady, Tadow

 

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22. Ariana Grande – Sweetener

Favorite Tracks: Blazed, Everytime, God Is A Woman, Borderline, Pete Davidson

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21. Lupe Fiasco – Drogas 

Favorite Tracks: Drogas, Manila, WAV Filies, Haile Selassie, Alan Forever, Stronger, and  XO


TOP 20!!!

 

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20. Anderson .Paak – Oxnard

Favorite Tracks: The Chase, Tints, Who R U?, 6 Summers , Trippy, and Cheers

 

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19. Kendrick Lamar/Various Artists – Black Panther: The Album

Favorite Tracks: All The Stars, Kings Dead, Pray For Me and Big Shot

 

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18. 6LACK – East Atlanta Love Letter

Favorite Tracks: Pretty Little Fears, Nonchalant, Sorry, Switch, Seasons, and Stan

 

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17. Meek Mill – CHAMPIONSHIPS

Favorite Tracks: Intro, Trauma, Uptown Vibes, On Me, What’s Free, Going Bad and 24/7

 

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16. Janelle Monáe – Dirty Computer

Favorite Track: Pynk, Americans, I Got The Juice, and Make Me Feel

 

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15. The Carters – Everything Is Love 

Favorite Tracks: SUMMER, APESHIT, LOVEHAPPY, BLACK EFFECT AND FRIENDS

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14. The Internet – Hive Mind

Favor Tracks: Come Together,La Di Da, Bravo, Come Over and It Gets Better (With Time)

 

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13. SiR – November

Favorite Tracks:D’Evils, Never Home, War, Better, That’s Alright and Dreaming of Me

 

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12. Smino – NØIR

Favorite Tracks: KOVERT, KLINK, TEQUILA MOCKINGBIRD, HOOPTI, FENTY SEX, AND PIZANO

 

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11. Tierra Whack – Whack World

 

 

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10. Saba – CARE FOR ME

Favorite Tracks: Broken Girls, Life, Prom/King and Logout

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9. Noname – Room 25 

Favorite Tracks: Montego Bae, Don’t Forget About Me and Prayer Song

 

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8. J. Cole – KOD

Favorite Tracks: KOD, Photograph, ATM, Motiv8, Brackets and 1985

 

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7. J.I.D – DiCaprio 2

Favorite Track: Slick Talk, Off Deez, 151 Rum, Off Da Zoinkys, Tiiied, Skrawberries, Hot Box and Hasta Luego

 

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6. Jay Rock – Redemption

Favorite Tracks: King’s Dead, Win, The Bloodiest, OSOM, Wow Freestyle, and Redemption


TOP 5!!!!!

 

 

 

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5. Cardi B – Invasion of Privacy

Cardi B had herself hell of a year! I found it difficult putting her ahead of so many good albums but I had to be honest with myself and to you all. (Yes I am specifically referring to putting her ahead of Jay Rock’s ‘Redemption’) Cardi B makes a strong case as the Music Industry’s MVP in 2018. “Bodak Yellow” took all the way off. She had two #1 singles in “Bodak Yellow” and “I Like That.” She was the 5th female rapper in history with a #1 album. On top of that half her album was on Billboard Top 200 at one point and she had amazing features. Cardi B is a star and you can make a strong case for ‘Invasion of Privacy’ being #1 on my list but its my list, so NAH! Anyways, Congratulations Cardi on your success and thank you for delivering an amazing album. She is already off to a great start in 2019! Expecting big things! 


 

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4. Nipsey Hussle – Victory Lap

“Last Time That I Checc’d,” this was arguably Nipsey’s best project! Maybe? Probably not. Let me chill because the hardcore Nipsey fans probably want to kill me for not having “Victory Lap” at #1! For me this was a phenomenal album but not THE BEST OF 2018. IT WAS ONE OF THE BEST, hence it being at #4 out of 50. This project had amazing production to go with flawless lyricism. Nipsey has been slept on for so long but I’m glad that “Victory Lap” allowed the casual hip hop/rap fans to get really really familiar with what elite talent looks like!


 

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3. Mac Miller – Swimming 

Damn… the untimely passing of Mac Miller will forever hurt. He was such a good guy and was truly loved by everyone. ‘Swimming’ was my favorite album this year for many reasons but I would like to make one thing clear. I am a Mac Miller stan but i didn’t let that cloud my judgement here. Also, this wasn’t a sympathy pick. I truly believe Mac had a Top 5 album this year. I’m prepared to debate anyone. This album was flawless and displayed Mac really mastering his craft with production and just overall song making. This was a real emotional body of work as he was battling a lot. It did seem like he was overcoming these obstacles but unfortunately we lost a young talent who really was underrated as a producer and an artist. I’m getting emotional talking about this so I’ll stop here. R.I.P Mac and thank you for everything!


 

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2. Pusha-T – DAYTONA

 

Outside of ‘Swimming’, ‘Daytona’ was the project I played on repeat daily since its arrival this past summer. This album could easily be #1 as well. Though it is only seven tracks, there was a lot of things occurring in all seven tracks. Production was flawless. I know you all hate the producer but I’m not gonna let his political views seal off my ears. All  seven tracks were so well produced. And the sampling?! Forget about it. It was dope. As expected too, Pusha-T delivered! Push is an artist who understands what his winning formula is and never creates without it! 

For more insight on what makes ‘Daytona’ a Top 2 project this year, check out the album review.

https://insuavewetrust.com/2018/06/04/pusha-t-daytona-review-stream/


 

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1. Travis Scott – ASTROWORLD

 

ASTROWORLD WAS THE BEST ALBUM OF 2018 WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT!!!! I initially wrote a crazy long argument but deleted it because I think I covered everything in my album review for ‘Astroworld’ explaining why its the  best album this year. Production may be its biggest strength here over lyricism but no one is checking for Travis to be all miracle lyrical on tracks. Its his ability to make songs that make him an elite artist. On top of that numbers don’t lie… You see how much he sold and how long he had held on to the #1 album spot! He may be the favorite to win “Best Rap Album” and “Album Of The Year” at the Grammy’s if #6 thru #2 on this list don’t win. Out of all the albums on this list outside of ‘Daytona’ and ‘Swimming’, ‘Astroworld’ has the most replay value. So yes ‘Astroworld’ was the #1 album of 2018! If you disagree, hit me up we’ll talk about it. 

https://insuavewetrust.com/2018/08/21/travis-scott-astroworld-album-review/

 


 

 

Thank You For Reading! Please, Please, Please Provide Me With Your Thoughts and Criticism! It’s All Love. Also Please Share This List With Your Friends & Family. Hopefully I Did A Good Job With Rankings Or At LEAST I Have A Better List Than Other Publications. 

 

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2018 XXL Freshmen Prove They Belong With Impressive Cypher Performances

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XXL’s Magazine’s Freshman List is loved by few and hated by many these days. Through out the Magazine’s 11 years of life, this list has acted/represented its self as a launch point for many influential careers. The likes of Kendrick Lamar, Meek Mill, Kid Cudi, Mac Miller, Big Sean, Wale have all graced the cover. Also there were artist such as Fashawn and Lil Twist who just flat out disappeared. This year’s picks had a lot of people frustrated. Some believed the likes of  Lil Baby and Gunna should be on this list. I agree with the popular opinion but XXL measures each acts success within a specific time frame. Lil Baby and Gunna picked up heavily towards the tale end of this window but should be guaranteed picks for next years cover. Anyways, I just wanted to do a little write up on this years freshman class and their cyphers as well as  grading each group as a whole. Also, I just wanted to post each session for those who still haven’t seen them! Esketitttt.


YBN NAHMIR X STEFFLON DON X WIFISFUNERAL

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I am a huge Wifi advocate! I think he’s extremely talented. His last two projects  were solid efforts especially for an up and comer like himself. He has some real potential to be big time. Wifi making the cover comes as no surprise either if you actually FOLLOW HIP HOP.  He was among the category of artists to be included the past two years that are basically shoo-ins. Along with Ski Mask and Lil Pump, you really should have seen this coming. As for his freestyle he did his thing. It was pretty much of what I have come to expect from him. 

Stefflon Don

Stefflon Don belongs on this list! A lot of people tried to play her like she didn’t belong. She is probably better than your favorite up and comer…. Maybe already one of the better female artist in the game. The sole woman artist on this year’s list, Don’s appearance here is anything but tokenism. Her music flares with Caribbean and dance-hall influences. She is quite the breath of fresh air in an otherwise trap and SoundCloud heavy list. She still has plenty of room to grow but she is a great talent who is well on her way to becoming a force. 

YBN Nahmir

Man after hearing “Rubbin Of The Paint,”  I felt like Nahmir could be something one day and it looks like XXL agrees with me too.  I loved his delivery and cadence. He is definitely more of the traditional type of rapper compared to his fellow freshman peers. YBN Nahmir is special and he has plenty of flow and the potential for mass appeal with longevity. He is starting to breakthrough with working with bigger artist such as G-Eazy and Yo Gotti on “1942” which is good. Nahmir has some star potential or at least be that artist who is around for a long time. His freestyle was solid here too! 

Conclusion: This group delivered with their cypher. Could have been better but it was pretty good given that many people assumed the worse outside of Stefflon Don! 

Rating: 4.75/5

 


LIL PUMP X BLOCBOY JB X SMOKEPURPP

Lil Pump

This pick was a no brainer….. I will not waste time trying to explain this one. He obviously is not the most lyrical or most talented artist but the kid is a star! I actually liked his verse a lot. He probably didn’t completely freestyle his verse but it definitely was a half written/freestyle verse possibly. Good attempt!

Blocboy JB

Blocboy JB is definitely deserving of a spot! A pick like this though is why some people were upset. Not upset because JB didn’t belong but it had people wondering what about Gunna, Lil Baby, Moneybagg yo and other up and  comers who are absolutely killing it. Blocboy’s freestyle wasn’t half bad either. 

Smokepurpp

 Smokepurpp was over shadowed  by Lil Pump as these two good friends were coming up in FL trying to make it in the industry.  Smokepurpp, the 2018 XXL Freshman, has the talent and overall opportunity now to not just catch his good friend but surpass him. He is one solid project away from real super stardom, in my opinion. 

 

Conclusion: These three had the most fun with their cypher! They weren’t the most lyrical but they had fun and showed so much chemistry and this cypher had so much energy! Surprisingly, they also spit some decent verses in all honesty! Pretty sure everyone did a freestyle off top but Pump! (I think…) These three rising stars messed around and gave XXL a free song. I definitely will be coming back to this just to listen to it. 

Rating: 4.5/5


J.I.D X SKI MASK THE SLUMP GOD

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J.I.D IS THE TOP TALENT IN HIS CLASS. ON TOP OF THAT, J.I.D IS ONE OF THE MOST TALENTED ARTIST IN THE WHOLE RAP GAME. I have not decided where to place him yet but based off his work up to this point he’s up there. I’m pretty sure he was a shoe in to make this list. I could go on for days about J.I.D but I’ll just say one thing. This Dreamville artist is just getting started and I believe the best is yet to come.

Ski Mask the Slump God

Ski Mask is such a weirdo. A talented weirdo. He’s another artist on this list that has Florida ties. While already being pretty big around the time of last year’s list, Ski Mask has shown a lot of growth since his split from the other artists who appeared on last year’s list. He has the potential to keep growing and so far his music stands out from most other members on this list for it’s sublimely dark and gritty vibe.

Conclusion: This was the first cypher to be released and this duo of J.I.D and Ski Mask The Slump God did not disappoint. J.I.D kills the Sonny Digital produced beat, as he takes up most of the time. Ski Mask took the xxxtentacion route from last year as he delivers a rapid fire verse acapella. J.I.D carried the two but this was my favorite of the three cyphers.

Rating: 5/5


So there were nine freshmen this year! A 10th spot was awarded to Lil Skies and he felt the list was rigged so he declined to be apart! Some believe another artist that would’ve made sense as a tenth pick would be Juice WRLD, who has been making a lot of noise BUT at the time of the construction of this list it was too late. Juice WRLD has made a lot of noise post the announcement of this years freshmen and he should be a guarantee for next year. Honestly, he may be bigger than this list by that time. Anyways, the group selected made sense to me and each artist deserved to be on this list. We could debate all day but just remember when those artist you argue for that should have been on this list may have not made enough “noise” or accomplished enough at the time of XXL made their picks. Those artists that we love that got left off will be on the list next year or they may be BIGGER than the list. We shall see.